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1 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:00:11 -0500 From: Charles Munoz <charlezzzzz@COMCAST.NET> Subject: Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea on 3/26/03 11:41 AM, Lois Anne du Toit at ldutoit@UKONLINE.CO.UK wrote: > No indeed, a fine, fine book. Charlezzzzz, you started me wondering which > Mary Renault book I would recommend above the others - tough choice ... I > decided on The Mask of Apollo, because the end of the book is one of the > finest pieces of writing I've e ...

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2 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

on 3/26/03 11:41 AM, Lois Anne du Toit at ldutoit@UKONLINE.CO.UK wrote: > No indeed, a fine, fine book. Charlezzzzz, you started me wondering which > Mary Renault book I would recommend above the others - tough choice ... I > decided on The Mask of Apollo, because the end of the book is one of the > finest pieces of writing I've encountered anywhere. A fine book, a lovely book: theatricals in Ancient Greece, and I especially delight in the scene where the ship reaches Syracuse ...

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3 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

Charlezzzzz wrote: "Yr recommendation of The King Must Die is a fine one, but I also strongly recommend The Last of the Wine because the hero becomes a captain of marines, serving on a trireme, and you can't say fairer than that." --------------------- No indeed, a fine, fine book. Charlezzzzz, you started me wondering which Mary Renault book I would recommend above the others - tough choice ... I decided on The Mask of Apollo, because the end of the book is one of the finest p ...

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4 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

on 3/25/03 10:51 AM, Linnea at ronlin@BRINET.COM wrote: > This forum has inspired me to read many new authors and revisit some old > favorites. One of these is Mary Renault. I'd read a couple of her books as > parallel reading for Latin in high school, but hadn't realized at the time > what a stunningly good writer she is. Now I'm savoring all her books. POB dedicated one of his books to her, didn't he? Owls to Athens, what? Yr recommendation of The King Must Die is a fine one, ...

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5 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

on 3/25/03 3:26 PM, Tharp, Katherine at KTHARP@DKSLAW.COM wrote: > Obviously, compiling a literary companion would require someone with special > expertizzzze. Any volunteerzzzz? Nil, and none from this direction. Alas, poor Borick. Cast yr eye on vacancy. Get thee to a nunnery. Go.      Anon.

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6 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

Tharp, Katherine wrote: > From: Linnea (ronlin@BRINET.COM) > Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 10:51:04 EST > > I'm a little behind in writing that this was a great post. I wonder how > many other references to other literature POB has made that we've > missed? I remember that Jerry Shurman did a brilliant analysis of POB and > Alice in Wonderland in the description of the Aubrey cottage in The > Mauritius Command (see http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC1001/0684.html > &g ...

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7 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

From: Linnea (ronlin@BRINET.COM) Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 10:51:04 EST I'm a little behind in writing that this was a great post. I wonder how many other references to other literature POB has made that we've missed? I remember that Jerry Shurman did a brilliant analysis of POB and Alice in Wonderland in the description of the Aubrey cottage in The Mauritius Command (see http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC1001/0684.html ~~Linnea I hadn't really meant to imply that POB's wine-dark sea was a re ...

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8 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

I'm a little behind in writing that this was a great post. I wonder how many other references to other literature POB has made that we've missed? I remember that Jerry Shurman did a brilliant analysis of POB and Alice in Wonderland in the description of the Aubrey cottage in The Mauritius Command (see http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC1001/0684.html ~~Linnea GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea From: Tharp, Katherine ("KTHARP@DKSLAW.COM) Date: Tue Mar 18 2003 - 17:51:17 EST This f ...

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9 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:51:17 -0600, Katherine wrote: >I hope that Ms. Renault and POB are enjoying many glasses of Chian wine >together in the Elysian fields. Great post, Katherine. Thank you for your comments and the quote. I've only read a couple of Renaults, and mean to read more. Soon. Marshall

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10 Re: GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

A lovely post Thank you And Renault had some small part in Patrick's slow rise to Fox/Columbia/Mirimar > This forum has inspired me to read many new authors and revisit some old > favorites. One of these is Mary Renault. I'd read a couple of her books as > parallel reading for Latin in high school, but hadn't realized at the time > what a stunningly good writer she is. Now I'm savoring all her books. > > "The King Must Die" is the first of a two-volume seri ...

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11 GRP RD Wine-Dark: Another Wine-Dark Sea -- rank: 1000

This forum has inspired me to read many new authors and revisit some old favorites. One of these is Mary Renault. I'd read a couple of her books as parallel reading for Latin in high school, but hadn't realized at the time what a stunningly good writer she is. Now I'm savoring all her books. "The King Must Die" is the first of a two-volume series on the legendary hero Theseus. Near the end of this book is an episode that is almost a reverse image of the volcanic island erupti ...

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12 Re: The wine-dark sea -- rank: 633

On 11/15/2015 8:37 PM, Adam Quinan wrote: > This of course is the real reason why the Greeks could not tell what colour > things were. > > http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/ch/1993/ch930919.gif > Wonderful! Rick H To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG (Please remove this message when replying)

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13 Re: The wine-dark sea (And: Homer a group?) -- rank: 633

Homer I ain't been much in the way of parsing lately. But Pepys, now...I envy you *that* task! On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:30 AM, ali nobari <festinolento_at_gmail.com> wrote: > je suis homeriste, tendance simpson > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:52 AM, <justin.reay_at_which.net> wrote: > > > Larry wrote: > > >A lot has been written about this, including the observation that the > > >Illiad and the Odyssey are quite different stylistically... ...

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14 Re: The wine-dark sea (And: Homer a group?) -- rank: 633

je suis homeriste, tendance simpson On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:52 AM, <justin.reay_at_which.net> wrote: > Larry wrote: > >A lot has been written about this, including the observation that the > >Illiad and the Odyssey are quite different stylistically... > > To argue against my own somewhat diffident contention that Homer was not > one poet writing the whole Iliad, but a disparate group of bards (that is, > poets composing and presenting epics in the spoke ...

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15 The wine-dark sea (And: Homer a group?) -- rank: 633

Larry wrote: >A lot has been written about this, including the observation that the >Illiad and the Odyssey are quite different stylistically... To argue against my own somewhat diffident contention that Homer was not one poet writing the whole Iliad, but a disparate group of bards (that is, poets composing and presenting epics in the spoken tradition at different times and places), I betook me to my favourite (if flawed) prose translation, that by E V Rieu of 1950, in the splendid ...

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